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, the economy was in free fall. and since then, it's gotten better. at first, it got worse at a slower rate. that's not a great slogan. but for the last 2 1/2 years, it has gotten steadily better in the sense that jobs have grown every year. every month. >> and sam, when you talk to the obama campaign, the particular way they see the voters who are going to side with them, or at least a lot of them practically swing voters, is what they believe, as alice said, we have a very deep hole to dig out of. we're not there but we're doing as good as we can expect to be doing. and there's been there important psychological barrier of 8%. does getting underneath that barrier to 7.8% really do much for president obama's talking point, that we have come a long way and now voters should let him finish the job, or do these kind of changes in numbers matter in washington but they're not what voters see around them so they're kind of a story here but not actually in the campaign. >> first of all i'm glad you asked alice the economi
, the economy was in free fall. and since then, it's gotten better. at first, it got worse at a slower rate. that's not a great slogan. but for the last 2 1/2 years, it has gotten steadily better in the sense that jobs have grown every year. every month. >> and sam, when you talk to the obama campaign, the particular way they see the voters who are going to side with them, or at least a lot of them practically swing voters, is what they believe, as alice said, we have a very deep hole to...
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they were expecting more on the economy. let me play an exchange over afghanistan. >> that's the afghan responsibility. we trained them. >> not in the east. >> let's move to another war. >> not in the east? >> rc east is the most dangerous place in the world. that's why we should send americans to do the job? you would rather americans do the job? >> we are already sending americans to do the job, but fewer of them. >> that's right. we are sending more afghans to do the job. afghans to do the job. >> michael, how do you think that played? >> i thought through all the foreign policy segments, with the exception of libya which is a special case which the obama administration is clearly on defense. what came across is there is a huge difference in style and attitude how these two campaigns will approach things. when they got to the policies, the two sides are remarkably similar. the romney campaign has throughout this campaign been trying hard to make this big contrast on foreign policy while actually keeping their policies fai
they were expecting more on the economy. let me play an exchange over afghanistan. >> that's the afghan responsibility. we trained them. >> not in the east. >> let's move to another war. >> not in the east? >> rc east is the most dangerous place in the world. that's why we should send americans to do the job? you would rather americans do the job? >> we are already sending americans to do the job, but fewer of them. >> that's right. we are sending more...
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how do they go out now and talk down the economy even further? it's really difficult to do given this significant accomplishment. and i think what is even more significant about this, you know, after the debate performance in which we all agree was not good on behalf of the president, the republicans and the governor, governor romney's campaign thought they had momentum. this now i would say has popped that balloon in a significant way and allows the president now to go out there as he did today in a very forceful way and make the argument that the country is moving in the right direction. you do not want to take us back in the wrong direction. >> you know, in a lame duck session of the congress we had this big discussion about the bush tax cuts. the republicans are so far off their game right now their reaction today should have been well we told president obama to extend the bush tax cuts. you can't raise taxes on the job creators. they don't even know their own talking points. what do they do now? they come out and accuse the president and the
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economy. you've got these crippling deficits, anemic jobs. you've got romney's plan to reverse that. on foreign affairs, you've got a failed foreign policy. yes, they've done more drone attacks, which is good. yes, osama bin laden is dead, which is good. but whether you deal with russia, china or throughout the broader middle east, you have a disaster. we saw that in the killing of the american ambassador in benghazi and a fundamental misunderstanding. >> i want to get to some other issues. i want to get to larger question, which is what is a romney foreign policy? what is going to be different about it than president bush's? less sort of the quote unquote freedom agenda? >> what you're going to have is a foreign policy that's been in the bipartson tradition of strength from kennedy and beyond. one that believes you need a strong economy. you need to have leadership. america's better off and the world is better off when america leads as "the washington post" editorial said today. there's a vac
economy. you've got these crippling deficits, anemic jobs. you've got romney's plan to reverse that. on foreign affairs, you've got a failed foreign policy. yes, they've done more drone attacks, which is good. yes, osama bin laden is dead, which is good. but whether you deal with russia, china or throughout the broader middle east, you have a disaster. we saw that in the killing of the american ambassador in benghazi and a fundamental misunderstanding. >> i want to get to some other...
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she said we think you are doing the right things to bring this economy around. but i have to say, it was a pretty ugly demonstration in ath thens. back to you. >> fascinating dynamic there. geoff, thanks so much. >>> still ahead this morning, will rex ryan and the jets finally declare it tebow time? the mystifying quarterback strategy at the meadowlands explained. plus, baseball playoffs ahead in sports. >>> and -- >> it's a beautiful day in the neighborhood, beautiful day for a neighbor, would you be mine, could you be mine. >> jimmy fallon turns mitt romney in to mr. rogers. that clip and a check on weather when way too early comes right back. i've been coloring liz's hair for years. but lately she's been coming in with less gray than usual. what's she up to? [ female announcer ] root touch-up by nice'n easy has the most shade choices, designed to match even salon color in just 10 minutes. with root touch-up, all they see is you. i just finished a bowl of your new light chicken pot pie soup and it's so rich and creamy... is it really 100 calories? let me put y
she said we think you are doing the right things to bring this economy around. but i have to say, it was a pretty ugly demonstration in ath thens. back to you. >> fascinating dynamic there. geoff, thanks so much. >>> still ahead this morning, will rex ryan and the jets finally declare it tebow time? the mystifying quarterback strategy at the meadowlands explained. plus, baseball playoffs ahead in sports. >>> and -- >> it's a beautiful day in the neighborhood,...
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the economy was in free fall. we had a great recession hit. 9 million people lost their job. $1.6 trillion in wealth lost in equity in your homes and retirement accounts for the middle class. we knew we had to act for the middle class. we immediately went out and rescued general motors. we went ahead and made sure we cut taxes for the middle class and in addition to that, when that occurred, what did romney do? romney said, no, let detroit go bankrupt. we moved in and helped people refinance their homes. governor romney said, no, let foreclosures hit the bottom. but it shouldn't be surprising for a guy who says 47% of the american people are unwilling to take responsibility for their own lives. my friend recently in a speech in washington said 30% of the american people are takers. these people are my mom and dad, the people i grew up with, my neighbors. they pay more effective tax than governor romney pays in his federal income tax. they are elderly people who, in fact, are living off social security. they are ve
the economy was in free fall. we had a great recession hit. 9 million people lost their job. $1.6 trillion in wealth lost in equity in your homes and retirement accounts for the middle class. we knew we had to act for the middle class. we immediately went out and rescued general motors. we went ahead and made sure we cut taxes for the middle class and in addition to that, when that occurred, what did romney do? romney said, no, let detroit go bankrupt. we moved in and helped people refinance...
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in their weekly address, republicans also talking about the economy. it was delivered by oklahoma congressional candidate mark wayne mullet. >> he gets it. republican majority in the house has passed several bipartisan common sense proposals to address regulation that hurts jobs. >>> meanwhile police in colorado are investigating a shooting at president obama's denver campaign office. officials say people were inside when a shot was fired through the office window flid afternoon, fortunately no one was hurt. police say they have a description of what they're calling at this point a vehicle of interest. more on all of these hours throughout the next three hours right here on msnbc. >>> as we just mentioned, mitt romney packing his schedule tight today in ohio. you're looking at live pictures from portsmouth, romney's first stop before heading to another rally in lebanon, ohio, later this afternoon. our peter alexander continues his travels with the romney campaign. he joins us live now. we understand the romney campaign is seeing much larger crowds. is
in their weekly address, republicans also talking about the economy. it was delivered by oklahoma congressional candidate mark wayne mullet. >> he gets it. republican majority in the house has passed several bipartisan common sense proposals to address regulation that hurts jobs. >>> meanwhile police in colorado are investigating a shooting at president obama's denver campaign office. officials say people were inside when a shot was fired through the office window flid afternoon,...
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it's not going to be about pro-life, it's going to be about the economy. >> john, let me play for you how romney assessed mr. ryan's debating skills on tuesday. this is mitt romney. take a listen. >> i don't know how paul will deal with this debate. obviously, the vice president has done, it's don't know, 15 or 20 debates during his lifetime, experienced debater. this is, i think, paul's first debate. i may be wrong. he may have done something in high school. i don't know. >> he's just trying to lower the expectations as low as they can go, so if ryan does reasonably well, they can convey he's doing better than expected. it's not true. >> this is a seven-term congressman who does p90x every day, runs marathon -- >> he's debated his opponents many times in wisconsin. >> what's he talking about? >> romney knows that. the big question in this campaign is whether it will catch up to him, is he says whatever is convenient, whatever he can get away with saying. whether on something small like whether paul ryan debated his congressional opponents or on something big like his tax cut. >> inde
it's not going to be about pro-life, it's going to be about the economy. >> john, let me play for you how romney assessed mr. ryan's debating skills on tuesday. this is mitt romney. take a listen. >> i don't know how paul will deal with this debate. obviously, the vice president has done, it's don't know, 15 or 20 debates during his lifetime, experienced debater. this is, i think, paul's first debate. i may be wrong. he may have done something in high school. i don't know. >>...
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they said that the president wasn't doing anything on the economy and that anything would be better than the president. anything out there, even if mitt romney is not very credible. they are going into november and what they find is we have the best job market that we have had in four years. they have to start making stuff up. they have to start attacking the messenger, the facts, and everything else. that's their fundamental problem, the facts. >> when you look at the job market right now and you see these positive numbers, over five million people have been put back to work. 31 months of private sector job growth. romney did not go after the 7.8%. he just said this is not what a recovery looks like. what do you make of that? everybody else is talking about cooking the books, but romney wouldn't go that far. >> it's a good question. it shows that he knows where his vulnerability is. if you look at the debate numbers, if you look at the new numbers from pew, what you find is generally people thought romney did better and that includes democrats did thought romney did better. the group of
they said that the president wasn't doing anything on the economy and that anything would be better than the president. anything out there, even if mitt romney is not very credible. they are going into november and what they find is we have the best job market that we have had in four years. they have to start making stuff up. they have to start attacking the messenger, the facts, and everything else. that's their fundamental problem, the facts. >> when you look at the job market right...
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click or call. >>> we share responsibility for creating an economy where parents with jobs earn enough to care for their families. in order to cut taxes for the wealthy. the romney ryan budget would make it even tougher on hard-working americans. >> that sistercy moan campbell speaking at the democratic convention last month. her group, nuns on the bus, will kick off another leg of their anti-pof tir tour. this time making stops in ohio. meanwhile, mitt romney still can't give a straight answer on exactly what his plan is for the wealthy. he campaigned on giving the mega rich a tax cut. his website backs him up. yet at the debate, romney claimed the opposite. >> first of all, i don't have a $5 trillion tax cut. i'm not looking for a $5 trillion tax cut. let me repeat what i said, i'm not in favor after $5 trillion tax cut. that's not my plan. >> a romney's plan could cost the country $5 trillion over the next five years. his friends at fox news says he doesn't have to explain his fuzzy math. here is chris wallace depending romney's flip-flop to o'malley. >> the president says that mitt
click or call. >>> we share responsibility for creating an economy where parents with jobs earn enough to care for their families. in order to cut taxes for the wealthy. the romney ryan budget would make it even tougher on hard-working americans. >> that sistercy moan campbell speaking at the democratic convention last month. her group, nuns on the bus, will kick off another leg of their anti-pof tir tour. this time making stops in ohio. meanwhile, mitt romney still can't give a...
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governor romney had a good week talking about the economy. they want to definele what will be talked about this week on the if foreign policy front. they'll have a hearing about what went on the in libya on the security side leading up to the attack there. that's what he wants to set the stage for. if they talk about foreign policy this week, he wants it to define the terms on which we have that debate. >> because words matter, you started off with with saying i think that's what governor romney was talking about. an ongoing investigation into what happened in libya. obviously, aa he great concern. but you could not answer that question with certainty of what epic failure governor romney and republicans believe has happened over the past four years under this president's leadership, under secretary of state hillary clinton here. that is still unclear even after that 25-minute speech a couple of hours ago. >> he made the case that the middle east is not more stable here. that's a failure that he wants to talk about. he made a case that terrori
governor romney had a good week talking about the economy. they want to definele what will be talked about this week on the if foreign policy front. they'll have a hearing about what went on the in libya on the security side leading up to the attack there. that's what he wants to set the stage for. if they talk about foreign policy this week, he wants it to define the terms on which we have that debate. >> because words matter, you started off with with saying i think that's what governor...
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they want to go back to the policies in the past on the economy. they know the president has a strong record on foreign policy. they politicalized this issue. they know these assessments change over time just like after 9/11, like they did in iraq. >> headline in the "new york post," reads smirky biden upstages his boss. it looks like the vice president got the base off the cliff, as you were saying just a second ago. what is your thought here? does the president plan to be as aggressive, maybe take a play out of the vice president's plan here when he has his debate next tuesday? >> i think everyone knows the vice president and president obama are two extremely different people. the president will hold mitt romney accountable in the next debate. i have no doubt about that. joe biden set the table for that. paul ryan was exposed last night for not having any new ideas and for not being truthful about their plans. >> brad woodhouse, thank you so much. i appreciate your time today, dnc xhuks director. >>> let's bring in our friday political power. jul
they want to go back to the policies in the past on the economy. they know the president has a strong record on foreign policy. they politicalized this issue. they know these assessments change over time just like after 9/11, like they did in iraq. >> headline in the "new york post," reads smirky biden upstages his boss. it looks like the vice president got the base off the cliff, as you were saying just a second ago. what is your thought here? does the president plan to be as...
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. >> showing here in virginia what conservative leadership can do to build a stronger economy. thank you also to congressman goodlot for joining us today. and particular thanks to general pete. i appreciate his invitation to be with you today at the virginia military institute. it's a privilege to be at an institution like this. it's done so much for our nation, both in times of war and in times of peace. for more than 170 years, vmi has done more than educate students. it's guided their transformation in to citizens, warriors and leaders. vmi graduates served with honor in the nation's defense just as many are doing today in afghanistan and other lands. and since september 11th attacks many of the sons and daughters of vmi defended america and mourn with you the 15 brave souls who have been lost. i join you in praying for the many vmi graduates right now serving in harm's way. may glod bleod bless all who ha served and who all serve. george marshal, the chief of staff of the army became secretary of state and secretary of defense, who helped vanquish fascist and then planned e
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the other factor people are completely ignoring is there is the economy. the economy is getting better, pal panelly across all measures. consumer confidence, unemployment. that's affecting the underlying numbers as well. that's going on at the same time. so there are so many things moving around in a close race that for anyone to call the race or to think they know where this race is headed at this point, they are deluding themselves. >> karen, romney, of course, says -- never says how he will make his massive tax cut revenue neutral without hitting the middle class, but the obama campaign is presenting a closer look at what it would mean. take a look at this. >> it's one of the hardest decisions a family can make, realizing a nursing home is the only choice. for many middle class families, medicaid is the only way to afford the care. but as a governor, mitt romney raised nursing home fees eight times and as president his budget cuts medicaid by one-third. we have a president who won't let that happen. >> okay. karen, forget about big bird, do you want to
the other factor people are completely ignoring is there is the economy. the economy is getting better, pal panelly across all measures. consumer confidence, unemployment. that's affecting the underlying numbers as well. that's going on at the same time. so there are so many things moving around in a close race that for anyone to call the race or to think they know where this race is headed at this point, they are deluding themselves. >> karen, romney, of course, says -- never says how he...
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the second thing is the economy, but the economy to the extent it improves the jobs situation. and undoubtedly the job number and the job report friday had a very positive effect on voters. jound lying the presidential contest is who do you trust more to get jobs back -- >> but professor reich, i'm being told every day these polls are a conspiracy, these jobs numbers were a conspiracy. the bureau wation involved in some kind of, i don't know, alien abduction, and produced goous statistics. >> that's paranoia on the right, and the right has been paranoid for years. the bureau of labor statistics is completely insulated from politics. these are professionals. whether the president is republican or democrat, they have a record of telling it exactly as it is. they understand how sensitive these job numbers are, and anybody who thinks that the bureau of labor statistics is sort of gaming the system not only has no idea what the system is, has no idea what bls, the bureau of labor statistics, stands for and their record, but also is sort of paranoid about everything. if things are no
the second thing is the economy, but the economy to the extent it improves the jobs situation. and undoubtedly the job number and the job report friday had a very positive effect on voters. jound lying the presidential contest is who do you trust more to get jobs back -- >> but professor reich, i'm being told every day these polls are a conspiracy, these jobs numbers were a conspiracy. the bureau wation involved in some kind of, i don't know, alien abduction, and produced goous...
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a stagnant economy that promotes more government dependency, or a dynamic growing economy that promotes opportunity and jobs? mitt romney and i will not duck the tough issues. and we will not blame others for the next four years. we will take responsibility and we will not try to replace our founding principles. we will reapply our founding princip principles. the choice is clear. and the choice rests with you. and we ask you for your vote. thank you. >> and thank you, both, again. thank you very much. this concludes the vice presidential debate. please tune in next tuesday for the second presidential debate at hofstra university in new york. i'm martha raddatz of abc news. i do hope all of you go to the polls. have a good evening. >> that was 90 minutes that felt like it was about nine minutes. a fast-moving intensely combative debate for the vice presidential debate this year, focused on complex substantial issues of foreign policy as much as it focused on economic and social issues, obviously they did not hit everything. still, now, over the two debates. for example, we've had no dis
a stagnant economy that promotes more government dependency, or a dynamic growing economy that promotes opportunity and jobs? mitt romney and i will not duck the tough issues. and we will not blame others for the next four years. we will take responsibility and we will not try to replace our founding principles. we will reapply our founding princip principles. the choice is clear. and the choice rests with you. and we ask you for your vote. thank you. >> and thank you, both, again. thank...
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look, we can grow this economy faster. that's what our five-point plan for a stronger middle class is all about. it's about getting 12 million jobs, higher take home pay, getting people out of poverty into the middle class. that means going with proven pro-growth policies that we know work to get people back to work. putting ideas on the table, working with democrats, that actually works sometimes. and then -- >> vice president, could we get to that issue of what you could bring as a man, human being? i'm really going to keep you to about 15 seconds here. >> he gets 40? i get 15. >> he didn't have 40. >> let me tell you, my record stands for itself. i never say anything i don't mean. everybody knows whatever i say i do. and my whole life has been devoted to leveling the playing field for middle class people. giving them an even break. treating main street and wall street the same. holding them to the same responsibility. look at my record. it's been all about the middle class. they're the people who grow this country. we t
look, we can grow this economy faster. that's what our five-point plan for a stronger middle class is all about. it's about getting 12 million jobs, higher take home pay, getting people out of poverty into the middle class. that means going with proven pro-growth policies that we know work to get people back to work. putting ideas on the table, working with democrats, that actually works sometimes. and then -- >> vice president, could we get to that issue of what you could bring as a man,...
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perhaps even in control of the economy. and to me, these numbers are surprising and concerning, because if it is a rut of the debate, it is to me, in my opinion, a response to a stylistic win. >> you understand, though, mika, why other voters, barack obama looked like a weak leader. >> but if you're going doik ma the argument for women voters, i think this president has done more for women than romney will even if he hooz two terms. . >> obama never talked be the supreme court, he never talked about todd akin. so the issues brought that role out to the fore where we're simply look -- so it is not, what it also shows by the way is all these people who say debates don't matter, they were dead wrong. >> they just might, we'll see. >> we can't underline the point too much that we always try to vulcanize people, i'm not saying that women don't-her republican friends were very concerned about the rat kl direction that the republican party seem to be taking in the primaries. but, and with gay voters, i'm not saying that gay voters
perhaps even in control of the economy. and to me, these numbers are surprising and concerning, because if it is a rut of the debate, it is to me, in my opinion, a response to a stylistic win. >> you understand, though, mika, why other voters, barack obama looked like a weak leader. >> but if you're going doik ma the argument for women voters, i think this president has done more for women than romney will even if he hooz two terms. . >> obama never talked be the supreme...
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we know the economy's got to get better. the president said that yesterday, but he also went a little further in touting those job numbers and of course the context means so much. two campaign rallies in two swing states, in virginia and ohio. he did the same in both states, largely said the same thing. meanwhile, mitt romney at a campaign rally in virginia downplayed the numbers saying this is not the recovery we want. a lot of people have simply quit looking for work out of frustration, artificially driving the number down. alex in reality talking about the so-called real unemployment rate. that's down as well. a year ago, exactly a year ago last september it was way up above 16%. no question coming off the president's poor debate performance, this was something romney needed. comes as become news from a political standpoint not to mention the millions looking for work. >> absolutely. more from jack welch's appearance on "hardball." take a listen to this, mike. >> reporter: do you mean it's a coincidence or do you mean you
we know the economy's got to get better. the president said that yesterday, but he also went a little further in touting those job numbers and of course the context means so much. two campaign rallies in two swing states, in virginia and ohio. he did the same in both states, largely said the same thing. meanwhile, mitt romney at a campaign rally in virginia downplayed the numbers saying this is not the recovery we want. a lot of people have simply quit looking for work out of frustration,...
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. >> the economy is again the central focus. the new jobs numbers drop the unm employment rate below 9%. >> we have made too much progress. >> a sign of recovery as the voters head to the polls. we cover it all this morning. the policy fight emerging from the debate and the policy. what does the debate reveal about these two men? >>> plus, our preview of the vice presidential debate this coming week. this morning, a special panel. obama campaign senior adviser robert gibbs. former republican presidential candidate newt gingrich. hilary rosen. mike murphy. and nbc's chief white house correspondent and political director chuck todd. >>> and finally, what you haven't heard from arnold schwarzenegger this week. a revealing conversation with the former california governor. he talks politics and his personal failings. >> what would you like your sons to learn from your mistakes? >> i think that they're not going to make the same mistakes. >>> from nbc news in washington, "meet the press" with david gregory. >>> and good morning. one m
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the way this state by state polls show, americans think the economy is starting to improve the economy is slowly starting to get better. i think that breaks the president's way. i think if he holds his own in the next two debates, i think it's going to be very close, but he's got a better than 50% chance of eking it out. it's going to be harder for him to be more aggressive in a town hall setting. you remember back in 2000, when al gore said he was going to be tough on george w. bush. he walked over, and bush made the audience laugh. so they're going to have to be a lot more charming. which is going to be difficult for the president, who's hearing from his base. you've got to be tough on this guy. you've got to call him a liar. you've got to punch his lights out. but i think -- i think the president's going to be ready. >> do you think the obama camp has been effective at trying to prove mitt romney at being dishonest? >> no. that's just nonsense. we lost so he's a liar. you know, if mitt romney was wlieing so much, for 90 minutes, why couldn't the president call him out? >> well, that
the way this state by state polls show, americans think the economy is starting to improve the economy is slowly starting to get better. i think that breaks the president's way. i think if he holds his own in the next two debates, i think it's going to be very close, but he's got a better than 50% chance of eking it out. it's going to be harder for him to be more aggressive in a town hall setting. you remember back in 2000, when al gore said he was going to be tough on george w. bush. he walked...
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i'll worry about the economy more than a few times before they're grown. but it's for them, so i've found a way. who matters most to you says the most about you. massmutual is owned by our policyholders so they matter most to us. massmutual. we'll help you get there. >>> there are four debates overall in this presidential election season. the vice presidential debate is the second of four. vice presidential debate is tomorrow night in kentucky. heading into that second of four debates, and now it's expected to have a giant audience tomorrow, my favorite effort so far to encapsulate what happened in the first debate is the effort to do so by bad lip reading. and to be fair, when bad lip reading did their sum up on the first debate, they focused more on jim lehrer than they did the candidates, but did so to beautiful effect. >> about how did you know who did it in the lounge. >> i didn't know. >> you didn't know? well, they started clapping, for the mad cow, until someone sold him. and then when he died, they had him stuffed, like that water buffalo, stuffed
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it's a bad sign if you want the economy to be bad so you can blame the incumbent president and beat him at the election. >> providing you are amenable to facts and reasonable discourse and you know something about the way statistical procedures work it's a good thing to know, yes. >> jared bernstein senior fellow at the center on budget and policy priorities, thank you very much for your time tonight and being willing to call bs where it needed to be called. thank you. >> thank you. >> i will say, you know, my take on this to my republican friends who are watchingance and i know you're watching, because i can hear you complaining sometimes. here's the thing about complaining about these numbers. you're not helping even your own guy. you heard what jared just said there about how we are getting accelerated improving growth. right? if you are going to lie about the numbers you can only lie for so long before people stop believing your conspiracy theory and eventually your candidate is going to need a theory and a case to the country for why he should be elected even though the economy is
it's a bad sign if you want the economy to be bad so you can blame the incumbent president and beat him at the election. >> providing you are amenable to facts and reasonable discourse and you know something about the way statistical procedures work it's a good thing to know, yes. >> jared bernstein senior fellow at the center on budget and policy priorities, thank you very much for your time tonight and being willing to call bs where it needed to be called. thank you. >>...
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and it said on the economy, they were actually basically siding with romney. they were basically willing to give up on obama, say it's failed, and think that romney's competent. where they were having reservations, and why romney was not having the kind of margins he needed was on social issues, abortion, contraception, planned parenthood, things like this. things that have been emphasized by the obama campaign. that might account for what happened in ohio. if that's the case, that would account for, you know, romney telling the editorial board, basically trying to say, you know, hey, women, if you're willing to vote for me on the economy, you don't have to worry about all this abortion stuff. that is certainly a tactic he's used before. ten years ago, the only general election campaign that mitt romney ever ran, the basic problem was the suburban voters were ready to vote for him. the swing voters in massachusetts were ready to vote for him. they didn't want to have all democratic control in massachusetts. they had reservations about him on abortion, because
and it said on the economy, they were actually basically siding with romney. they were basically willing to give up on obama, say it's failed, and think that romney's competent. where they were having reservations, and why romney was not having the kind of margins he needed was on social issues, abortion, contraception, planned parenthood, things like this. things that have been emphasized by the obama campaign. that might account for what happened in ohio. if that's the case, that would...
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the goal isn't to weaken the iranian economy but to stop the program. weaken i weakening the regime. >> dan -- >> closer to the nuker la program and they are. >> quick question on egypt. would governor romney have stuck with mubarak or not? >> look, he's made clear that the there was a legitimate, bonified reform movement that went from tahrir square around the region and we should have stood with the people on the streets protesting, trying to get reform in place. so he was supportive of that arab spring. >> thank you very much, dan senor, for your help today. >> good to be with you. thanks. >> i know dan is in debate camp helping paul ryan. we'll talk next about that. >>> coming up, los angeles's mayor. what is the president's come back after the debate? and biden versus ryan. the pressure ahead of that event. [ male announcer ] how do you measure happiness? by the armful? by the barrelful? the carful? how about...by the bowlful? campbell's soups give you nutrition, energy, and can help you keep a healthy weight. campbell's. it's amazing what soup can
the goal isn't to weaken the iranian economy but to stop the program. weaken i weakening the regime. >> dan -- >> closer to the nuker la program and they are. >> quick question on egypt. would governor romney have stuck with mubarak or not? >> look, he's made clear that the there was a legitimate, bonified reform movement that went from tahrir square around the region and we should have stood with the people on the streets protesting, trying to get reform in place. so he...
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how do we grow the economy and get people back to work. the social issues are an appendage. we'll deal with those later. they get in the way of the main objective. his problem on social issues was just brilliantly outlined by sam. it's the problem that a lot of voters, i think, might have with mitt romney. what does he do about the supreme court? what does he do about a bill to veto the funding for planned parenthood. what would he do as president, and that's what some voters will take into the booth with them. >> i think on those issues they're pretty straightforward. i think mitt romney will work to defund planned parenthood. i think mitt romney will appoint conservative justices. i think he will. >> with respect to defunding planned parenthood, what he told "the des moines it register is the is the is he had no plan for that. >> bha did he say to "the des moines register?" >> he has no legislation under his administration that will deal with abortion. >> yeah. there's no legislation with regards to abortion that i'm familiar with that would part of my agenda. >> when he b
how do we grow the economy and get people back to work. the social issues are an appendage. we'll deal with those later. they get in the way of the main objective. his problem on social issues was just brilliantly outlined by sam. it's the problem that a lot of voters, i think, might have with mitt romney. what does he do about the supreme court? what does he do about a bill to veto the funding for planned parenthood. what would he do as president, and that's what some voters will take into the...
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we just can't accept that the economy is getting better. fox business reported that congressman darrell issa wants to look into whether officials are cooking the books on the job numbers in order to help the president out. >> now chairman issa wants to have hearings on this. take a listen. >> the way it's being done with constant revisions tells us that it's not as exact a science as it needs to be and there's got to be a better way to get those numbers or don't put them out if they are going to be wrong as much as half a point. >> hearings on the job numbers? really? this would put issa in the company of conspiracy theorists like jack welch and rush limb a limbaugh and his spokesman spoke out, the oversight committee has not announced or decided to hold or convene a hearing. no plans? sure about that? because fox business later ran another clip showing issa talking about when he would hold the hearings that he supposedly isn't going to hold. >> well, now the top republican says he wants to hold hearings into the matter. take a listen. >> w
we just can't accept that the economy is getting better. fox business reported that congressman darrell issa wants to look into whether officials are cooking the books on the job numbers in order to help the president out. >> now chairman issa wants to have hearings on this. take a listen. >> the way it's being done with constant revisions tells us that it's not as exact a science as it needs to be and there's got to be a better way to get those numbers or don't put them out if they...
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he offered no new ideas for how to fix the economy. i welcome the chance to share my vision for renewed prosperity and opportunity and i think it compared quite favorably to president obama's policy for big, trickle-down government. >> this past hour, mitt romney's son, josh, met with reporters in the swing state of virginia. it's part of a day-long effort the campaign is calling super saturday, with volunteers going door to door in battleground states. president obama has no public events today. he will head to california tomorrow, where he is expected to tout the new jobs number, 7.8%, and some big fund-raising numbers out today. president obama and the democrats raised $181 million in september, the highest single-month total so far. more on all these stories throughout the next two hours. >>> the campaign focus shifts a bit next week to the vice presidential nominees. paul ryan and joe biden will face off in their only debate next thursday night. paul ryan has just left his four-day debate camp. he is heading back to wisconsin for
he offered no new ideas for how to fix the economy. i welcome the chance to share my vision for renewed prosperity and opportunity and i think it compared quite favorably to president obama's policy for big, trickle-down government. >> this past hour, mitt romney's son, josh, met with reporters in the swing state of virginia. it's part of a day-long effort the campaign is calling super saturday, with volunteers going door to door in battleground states. president obama has no public...
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if the economy grows, more people are buying from them. there's more confidence, and it is just a self fulfilling prophecy. >> what we are dealing with here, four years -- apart from what president obama is saying on there, what we have seen is that small business is struggling and we are way, way at the end of the food chain. we have banks that can't fail. $700 billion going into who knows what. snail gardens in san francisco. it is harder today because of rules like dodd-frank to get money from a bank. small banks are failing. we lost 2,000 of them in the last two or three years. that's where businesses go to get the personal loan based on my personal credibility. those are gone, and that's why we need a change. >> when you listen to them debate and you hear, this is going to affect small businesses, this is going to affect small business, i sometimes think, okay, let's get beyond the rhetoric and down to the details of it. so governor romney very early on said, if you tax people who earn more than $250,000, if you increase those taxes,
if the economy grows, more people are buying from them. there's more confidence, and it is just a self fulfilling prophecy. >> what we are dealing with here, four years -- apart from what president obama is saying on there, what we have seen is that small business is struggling and we are way, way at the end of the food chain. we have banks that can't fail. $700 billion going into who knows what. snail gardens in san francisco. it is harder today because of rules like dodd-frank to get...
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it is of course a campaign about the economy. everyone says it's about the economy, but even more than that, it is about the future of the american dream. it's about the future of the middle class. and that's very strong ground for this president. people believe that he is fighting for the middle class in a way that they do not trust mitt romney to do. >> can i put forward a theory? >> that is why you're here. >> there has been so much panic since the last debate and i think michelle obama has a better view of this race than some of the pundits. andrew sullivan all by declared this thing over and he's a obama supporter. >> i believe it says here the election is november 6th. >> i've heard that, too. >> and there's a theory there that michelle is operating on. and the theory is that people are still listening and organizing on the ground involves telling people about the president's record to win. and if you look at the debate numbers, the most important one i think has been glossed over. when you ask independents about the debate
it is of course a campaign about the economy. everyone says it's about the economy, but even more than that, it is about the future of the american dream. it's about the future of the middle class. and that's very strong ground for this president. people believe that he is fighting for the middle class in a way that they do not trust mitt romney to do. >> can i put forward a theory? >> that is why you're here. >> there has been so much panic since the last debate and i think...
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the president can't do that much to control the economy. but four years ago obama got to run saying, they drove it into the ditch, i can drive it out. then it turns out he can't. now the next guy gets to say, i can drive it out. he also can't drive it out, but this is the ritual every four oh eight years as someone promises they are the special healer who can put their hands on the economy and make it all right again. >> i i think megan is gliding past the problem. this is an illustration of the problem. you can glide past alan west, donald trump, a lot of the people mitt romney who wants to be president has chosen to deeply associate and work with and legitimize. that tells us who he wants to be with as he chose them for the cabinet and everything else. liberals said for a long time that's an issue with how we measure this. that's in the two surveys. but the point is they are alleging another con spir p si to rile people up with lies. that's the problem. >> this is true. it's crazy to suggest anyone manage -- first of all, these are people
the president can't do that much to control the economy. but four years ago obama got to run saying, they drove it into the ditch, i can drive it out. then it turns out he can't. now the next guy gets to say, i can drive it out. he also can't drive it out, but this is the ritual every four oh eight years as someone promises they are the special healer who can put their hands on the economy and make it all right again. >> i i think megan is gliding past the problem. this is an illustration...
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the sweep of the debates, how the economy shapes up election day. if 2004 is any guide, two or three-point race and it may not feel that close for the losing side. >> can i ask a question of stewart? i azbrdegree with you 100%. just a quick question. would you agree that the three, two, one scenario, which is wonky for your audience. >> our audience is sophisticated. >> if romney can win back, indiana, north carolina, carry ohio and florida, win a handful of other states, nevada, colorado, new hampshire, a variety of others, do you agree that that's a plausible scenario today? because ten days ago, that was a written off scenario. is that a viable pathway for mitt romney today? >> i think ohio looks to be in play now, where a couple weeks ago it looked like it was falling out of play. but i think ohio remains a difficult -- a difficult hill to climb for the romney campaign. look if they win ohio, they're probably going to win the white house. given where the other numbers, if they win ohio they'll have already won north carolina, virginia, florida,
the sweep of the debates, how the economy shapes up election day. if 2004 is any guide, two or three-point race and it may not feel that close for the losing side. >> can i ask a question of stewart? i azbrdegree with you 100%. just a quick question. would you agree that the three, two, one scenario, which is wonky for your audience. >> our audience is sophisticated. >> if romney can win back, indiana, north carolina, carry ohio and florida, win a handful of other states,...
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i'll worry about the economy more than a few times before they're grown. but it's for them, so i've found a way. who matters most to you says the most about you. massmutual is owned by our policyholders so they matter most to us. massmutual. we'll help you get there. >>> the interview tonight responding to mitt romney's foreign policy speech, the interview is the highest ranking woman in the history of the pentagon. very excited for this interview. that's straight ahead. >>> okay. chart imitates life. this is what we have been spending on our military over time. this is the base budget for the pentagon. the website posted this today. the first spike, that's military spending going up, going way up for the korean war and then you see it comes back down again. the second spike, that's military spending going way up for the vietnam war and then it comes back down again. the third spike, that's the cold war, giant arm's race buildup and the soviet union starts to collapse into 1991 and our post-cold war spending comes back down. then the terrorist attack in se
i'll worry about the economy more than a few times before they're grown. but it's for them, so i've found a way. who matters most to you says the most about you. massmutual is owned by our policyholders so they matter most to us. massmutual. we'll help you get there. >>> the interview tonight responding to mitt romney's foreign policy speech, the interview is the highest ranking woman in the history of the pentagon. very excited for this interview. that's straight ahead. >>>...
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and we're talking about the economy, the fiscal cliff. a lot of focus on libya, which we'll get to in a moment. what do you think romney is doing with this second look? >> i think something big happened in that first debate that's beyond president obama not showing up. and that was that, you know, president obama hasn't really been trying to get elected again. he's been trying to stop mitt romney from getting elected. and that cracked. mitt romney was not the guy that barack obama has been painting for the past few months. he's not this radical baby eating, grandma killing republican. he is a very reasonable, practical, problem solver. that campaign collapsed. so, you know, i think president obama is likely -- he can't put out the fireman so he is trying to break the other fireman's knees. mitt romney showed up and was a very acceptable republican. barack obama now has no campaign for the future why he's indispensably needed. now his campaign against mitt romney has cracked. this is a man with two empty holsters. his campaign could collap
and we're talking about the economy, the fiscal cliff. a lot of focus on libya, which we'll get to in a moment. what do you think romney is doing with this second look? >> i think something big happened in that first debate that's beyond president obama not showing up. and that was that, you know, president obama hasn't really been trying to get elected again. he's been trying to stop mitt romney from getting elected. and that cracked. mitt romney was not the guy that barack obama has...
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. >> when governor romney tried to give us his business advice about the economy and said that we should let detroit go bankrupt, we said, no thanks, we're not going to take that advice. we've reignited an auto industry that's on top of the world. >> he wasn't having a shining moment at the debate. watch this. >> everybody here, incredible professionals, they are such great friends and they just perform flawlely, night after night i can't always say the same. >> so he joked about his performance but he's going hard on the policies. is that a winning formula, marg? >> absolutely. that's why the president is usually net favorable. even new polls that have come out in the last couple of days have shown romney doing better, even leading obama, he's still net favorable. that kind of looseness that you're seeing from the president on the campaign trail, we're just simply not going to get from romney. that's just not the kind of candidate that he is. when you take all of that together combined with mitt romney who has put himself in a corner not just with fact checkers but his own campaign team
. >> when governor romney tried to give us his business advice about the economy and said that we should let detroit go bankrupt, we said, no thanks, we're not going to take that advice. we've reignited an auto industry that's on top of the world. >> he wasn't having a shining moment at the debate. watch this. >> everybody here, incredible professionals, they are such great friends and they just perform flawlely, night after night i can't always say the same. >> so he...
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it's really jobs and the economy. can he win over voters there? he has just started two new ads in spanish. will that sort of argument help win some people over? >> no, because the republican party refuses the to acknowledge that immigration is an economic issue for latino. when you have the majority of latinos are within one generation of the immigration experience, how people acclimate within the new environment, within the new economy is an immigration issue. so even though most latinos may prioritize jobs above immigration without having an immigration process that allows parents or uncles to immigration and work in the economy, it's going to be difficult for latino families to integrate into society. >> it is widely believed that mitt romney cannot win the white house without winning florida. he has florida senator marco rubio out stumping. he is always considered a rising star. his name is always right in there. who do florida hispanics think of marco rubio? >> well, florida hispanics are really diverse. they're kind of like the country, whe
it's really jobs and the economy. can he win over voters there? he has just started two new ads in spanish. will that sort of argument help win some people over? >> no, because the republican party refuses the to acknowledge that immigration is an economic issue for latino. when you have the majority of latinos are within one generation of the immigration experience, how people acclimate within the new environment, within the new economy is an immigration issue. so even though most...
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i'll just create a better economy by snapping my fingers now. don't know how long he can get away with this, maybe until election day, but he's taking this position that it almost doesn't matter what he says as long as it sounds good at the time. >> cecile, let me ask you about, when you get up in the morning and worry about the possibility of this election going the wrong way from your perspective of a volunteer for obama, when you really think, and you have to talk to your best friends whom we care most about, when you tell pro choice women what they should fear from the next administration, should it be a romney administration, what is your concerns? what are the list of concerns you have? >> first of all, the thought that my daughters would have fewer rights than i do, or my granddaughters or other folks' children, women would literally lose the right to make their own personal decisions about health care, about having children is absolutely incredible. that is frightening. the other thing that's an immediate concern is planned parenthood. w
i'll just create a better economy by snapping my fingers now. don't know how long he can get away with this, maybe until election day, but he's taking this position that it almost doesn't matter what he says as long as it sounds good at the time. >> cecile, let me ask you about, when you get up in the morning and worry about the possibility of this election going the wrong way from your perspective of a volunteer for obama, when you really think, and you have to talk to your best friends...
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it's very clear, for years of analysis, the impact of unions in the economy, one of the things unions do very well is they help ensure a more equitable distribution of the growth that their members, our workforce actually produced and we know there's been a huge split between the economy's productivity and compensation of the typical worker. unions have always worked to make sure that the slices of the pie are more evenly distributed. it's a function that is missing as you see battles in wisconsin go up very strong. >> gentlemen, let me ask you this. when we talk about fairness, the big issue of tax cuts, biden was able to corner ryan on the tax cuts they really can't explain. watch this. >> deny those loopholes and deductions to higher income taxpayers so more of their income is taxed which has a broader base of -- lower tax rates across the board. here's why i'm saying this. what we're saying is -- >> i hope i'm going to get time to respond to this. >> tax rate 20%, start with the wealthy, work with congress. >> and you guarantee this math will add up? >> absolutely. six studies hav
it's very clear, for years of analysis, the impact of unions in the economy, one of the things unions do very well is they help ensure a more equitable distribution of the growth that their members, our workforce actually produced and we know there's been a huge split between the economy's productivity and compensation of the typical worker. unions have always worked to make sure that the slices of the pie are more evenly distributed. it's a function that is missing as you see battles in...
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american people with one message, that he can take us to a better place, he can deliver us from the economy we all inherited from george w. bush to something better. romney came out best in the first debate because he denied the path he has chosen, denied the big tax cut from 35% down to 28% for people at the top bracket. the all-out elimination of the estate tax, the big-time cut in the corporate rate. he denied his plan to eliminate medicare, denied he would kill coverage for those with pre-existing conditions. he got away without bothering to deny his plan to let the automobile industry to go bankrupt and to dump 40 million people to wait in the emergency room. let's look at some of the latest polling in the wake of wednesday's debate. this afternoon pew released a poll that showed a dramatic shift toward romney. this poll covers the four days since the debate, and it has romney pulling even with president obama among registered voters, 46% even. four weeks ago pew had obama up by nine among registered voters, so this has been a huge shift in the pew poll. the move in the pew poll toward
american people with one message, that he can take us to a better place, he can deliver us from the economy we all inherited from george w. bush to something better. romney came out best in the first debate because he denied the path he has chosen, denied the big tax cut from 35% down to 28% for people at the top bracket. the all-out elimination of the estate tax, the big-time cut in the corporate rate. he denied his plan to eliminate medicare, denied he would kill coverage for those with...
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the 2008 elections and in it he says in spite of the challenges we have faced, the good news is the economy doesn't currently pose a threat to your job. be what does threaten your job is another four years of the same presidential administration. he goes on to argue that the obama administration has demonized the 1%, the true job creators and any increase in taxes would require him to lay off taxes. he just doesn't have enough money. and he ends with this thinly-vailed threat straight from the republican makers and takers textbook. "i can no longer support a system that penalized the productive and gives to the unproductive. my motivation to work and to provide jobs will be destroyed and with it so will your opportunities. if that happens, you can find me in the caribbean sitting on a beach, under a palm tree, retired with no employees to worry about." hold it right there. he worries about his employees. is he alone? does he care? of course, he cares. but this man is greedy. he can't help himself. he can't help hipgs for how much he hates president obama. this is only time he used employees
the 2008 elections and in it he says in spite of the challenges we have faced, the good news is the economy doesn't currently pose a threat to your job. be what does threaten your job is another four years of the same presidential administration. he goes on to argue that the obama administration has demonized the 1%, the true job creators and any increase in taxes would require him to lay off taxes. he just doesn't have enough money. and he ends with this thinly-vailed threat straight from the...
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. >> big, yellow, a menace to our economy, mitt romney knows it's not wall street you have to worry about, it's sesame street. >> i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. >> mitt romney taking on our enemies no matter where they nest. >> now it's funny. >> politics. >> when talking about sesame street and not taxes, you know, foreign policy or, you know, what to do about the fiscal cliff, what kind of a campaign is that? >> well, this is -- so the gamut here, you mentioned, this is on cable tv nationally in some broadcast tv nationally and not in any swing state. if the obama campaign spent $100,000 on this ad buy, i would be surprised. they certainly don't have any real money behind it. this is meant to be a talker in the media and to send to their base and say see, mitt romney, he's being ridiculous. the danger when you do things like this, this close to an election is to your point, i got lots of republicans sending me the famous barack obama quote from 2008 about john mccain that he can't talk about big things in this election so he's trying to make it about small things. i don't think b
. >> big, yellow, a menace to our economy, mitt romney knows it's not wall street you have to worry about, it's sesame street. >> i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. >> mitt romney taking on our enemies no matter where they nest. >> now it's funny. >> politics. >> when talking about sesame street and not taxes, you know, foreign policy or, you know, what to do about the fiscal cliff, what kind of a campaign is that? >> well, this is -- so the gamut...